ADRIAN DAVID BAKER: (s.u.o.)
CHAIRPERSON: Gentlemen, you have been given a photostat copy of the - I don't quite know what one calls it, an extract from "The Other Side of the Story". Now it's quite clear because it's not in colour, but if you look at the top "Unrest Related Incidents", the ...(intervention)
MR BOOYENS: Mr Chairman, I ...(inaudible - no microphone)
CHAIRPERSON: ... the top diagram starts at 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 and 1990 is the highest. On the bottom diagram the figures on the left - sorry, the lower column on the left is "Killed" and the higher column joining it is "Injured".
And there is one other matter I would like to mention before we start today's evidence and that is, we were yesterday given a copy of Mr Wagener's cross-examination of Mr de Kock at his trial, arising out of the cross-examination by Mr Wagener of Mr de Kock here. I am told there are many more pages, I do not intend to ask that they be made available, but if Mr Wagener, having researched them, is of the view that there are relevant passages that are not before us, it seems to me only fair that he should be allowed to put those before the Committee. He has cross-examined on that question, and of course make it available to the legal advisors of the other applicants. That is, after the adjournment in this matter.
Would that suit you, Mr Wagener?
MR WAGENER: Thank you, Mr Chairman. Yes, no the portion that I referred to is in fact what was handed up to you via Mr Steenkamp. I can't remember anything else, so I do not intend at this stage to research for something else. This was the part that I had in mind. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON: And there's perhaps another matter that should be recorded, and that is as each day passes we all grow older.
MR BOOYENS: Mr Chairman, Mr Baker as you would recall, yesterday afternoon just before the conclusion of the proceedings, I just asked him to identify that one document and you indicated that if any members do wish to ask any questions on that, they can do so this morning. May I just request the Committee to enquire whether anybody has got other questions and if not, may I ask that Mr Baker be excused, he's got a job that he's got to look after.
CHAIRPERSON: Any questions, gentlemen? I'm quite sure that if any matter arises ...(inaudible - no microphone).
MR BOOYENS: I can get hold of him, yes.
CHAIRPERSON: None of the persons present have any further questions for Mr Baker and it has been indicated that should it become necessary, arrangements can be made for him to return to the hearing. In those circumstances, he is now excused from attendance.
MR BOOYENS: Thank you, Mr Chairman.
WITNESS EXCUSED
