CHAIRPERSON: Good afternoon again. We were due to hear the matter of ...(indistinct - no microphone) and Mkhwanazi. Apparently with the Msimango matter there's one victim who is on his way from Standerton. We don't know when the victim will arrive in Jo'burg, but arrangements have been made that somebody would be on the lookout for him and that matter would proceed tomorrow and we have this matter where the applicant is Aaron Mkhwanazi. Apparently we have to look at it again closely and we have requested our member from the Amnesty Committee member from the Investigative Unit to have a re-look or re-investigation. We cannot proceed with the matter for the following reason, that if the applicant says he's referring to another incident and the victims come and say no, this is the same incident, the matter is not as simple as that. To be able to give effect to the spirit of reconciliation, we've got as well to be absolutely certain that we are speaking of the same incident.
We apologise profusely to the victims who up to now, would appear not to be the victims of the incident, Mr Mkhwanazi is speaking about. We know you come from far and wide. Accept the Amnesty Committee's apology, which I'm tendering to you. We know you took great trouble, which is appreciated, that victims should come forward but for the reasons I have already alluded to, matters cannot be as simple as that because here lies the interests of the applicant and the interests of those who had their beloved ones killed, maimed, injured, that we should all be ad idem about what we are talking about.
To facilitate matters, I will be sitting again here in Johannesburg on the 26th of June, but we have agreed with Mr Mkhwanazi's legal representative that we will proceed on the 27th so that the investigations and establishment of whether we are talking about the same incident, will be done from today to the 27th which gives us just slightly over a month.
We again apologise and say, do not feel bad, reconciliation is all about that, that we all know we are talking about the same incident. On behalf of the whole staff from the Amnesty Committee, I tender our apologies,. So, you would be advised again by letter or notice that you should be here on the 27th of June. Please travel well home and your efforts are very much appreciated. Should you want to know anything, anyone can ask me a question that is on your minds at the present moment before we adjourn, or if there's any misunderstanding, please let's all of us be ad idem whether I have been understood. Are we all happy? I know you would not be happy in the sense that you have travelled and what you came here for, did not take place, but please understand the dilemma we are in because, much as we want to accommodate you, we must accommodate the applicant as well.
In the absence of any clarification, this Committee adjourns for the day. We shall reconvene again tomorrow at nine thirty and those who are involved in respect of Mkhwanazi, your matter has been postponed to the 27th of June, the year 2000. Thank you.
MS COLERIDGE: Thank you Chairperson. All rise.