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AK47Explanation MR LEBEA: AK47 and the millimetre pistol. were present here yesterday when I explained about how your brother was murdered. I explained that when we left Umhlane Pumatenja with the gun, the AK47 which he carried, we left the scene. At that time Sergeant Khumalo had not really approached his gate, we had overtaken him on the way and ... besig was om met ‘n AK47 te vuur. Hy het op die stadium to gather information, we compiled reports, I kept copies of these reports. Our task was to gather information. These two people had possession of AK47's or one AK47 and a Tokarev and they had a covert vehicle. That was a way of living out a ... We had two AK47's, two revolvers and one pistol. We driving three cars, the other one was a Chevrolet and two Fords, the other one was a bakkie and the other one was a sedan. That was on the 15th July 1991. We went to Stilfontein, our aim was to go there and repossess the money. MR BERGER: At the stadium you wanted an AK47, and you landed up with a stick. I take it you were very keen to kill as many people as possible in Boipatong that night? If I'm correct, I put it to you that it's difficult to believe that you only attacked one person. MR VAN ZYL: I understood that a big gun is an AK47. MR KOOLE: One of these men I do not know asked Mr Hashe the whereabouts of the guns they use in the township to kill people with - the AK47’s. MR STRYDOM: What did you do with your AK47 in that house? MR PHAMA: We were using the AK47 rifle. MR MOTLOKWA: The sectional commander would issue guns to the SDU, to operators at the time of the patrol. The AK47 would - we were given guns when we were going to do the patrol then they would count the bullets. Should I continue? "The individual objectors on whose behalf we act, deny that they were armed with any firearms and/or AK47 rifles. It is admitted that a number of the marchers carried a variety of traditional weapons." MR BELLINGAN: Mr Chairman, on the photograph on page 65 we see two AK47's with double magazines and I have previously testified that those were the weapons I brought from Pretoria or whether they were the weapons of the liberation fighters. I did agree that that was the blanket found in the boot ... "Vanana Zulu was in control of the weapons at Kwamadala Hostel. The weapons that I can recall were AK47's. There were more or less 20 and hand weapons. There were more or less 8 to 10 that I saw. These weapons were brought to the Kwamadala Hostel by Xoltlo from Vosloorus" MR VISSER: And in 37 you then state that Moni and Lengene showed them an AK47 hand grenade and an SPM limpet mine in order to strengthen their credibility? ... told us that their ammunition were in place and they also told us that we won't be using often the weapons from the police, but we will be given AK47 weapons like that and some others which were used by ANC in their activities. That would help us so that they could not easily tell who carried ... MR SIBEKO: During the time when you were a Self Defence Unit member, were you at any stage in possession of an AK47 or any form of firearm which you used towards or against anybody? ADV MOTATA: Now those who were carrying guns, for instance AK47's, did they use such weaponry in the assault? MR MPELE: Yes, they were shooting in the air in Everest. I then said to Lucky, "Since you have an AK47 and I also have one, why can't we get ourselves a car, because they also have a car, and attack them?", then Lucky said, "That's a better idea, let's go and borrow a car", and we did not have an ... MR STRYDOM: And these weapons, did they include AK47 rifles? |