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APLAExplanation Showing 281 to 300 of 356 First Page•Previous Page 10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 •17 •18 Next Page•Last PageMR DE KOCK: Chairperson, he would have been shot in the head, there is no doubt about that. As I've given evidence before, there were instances in which our members shot an MK or an Apla and even though you knew he was dead you'd still fire two extra shots to the head to make sure that he was dead. MR MAMASELA: I warned Dr Ribeiro, I warned the Commander of APLA, Tsoba, who was killed in Atteridgeville, and he never heeded my warnings, and they paid the ultimate penalty. MR THEJANE: The information came when we were in Ficksburg, when we were handling APLA members. We received information around that Abel Choane is around Bloemfontein and Botshabelo. We left Ficksburg and came to Botshabelo searching for him. ... in peace with our neighbours. To change the mind-set of soldiers can't be done overnight and bear in mind that we have a mixture at present, MK, APLA, TBVC former SADF and we have now taken in some former members of the KwaZulu structures. It is eight ... against the judges of this country, but I think that it is ironic that there have been, I mean, two weeks ago the leaders of Umkhonto weSizwe and of APLA were subpoenaed to appear at a further hearing to give further account of acts which they carried out to liberate this country from apartheid ... ... the things that they had said about elimination. I know about the attack in Lesotho which was carried out, I know about the attack on the APLA bases in Natal - in Transkei, I beg your pardon and it is on those grounds - I can’t say that they really agreed with that type of ... BRIG LOOTS: Western Transvaal, because of its geographic position was responsible for the co-ordinating of MK and APLA activities in Botswana and also infiltrations from Botswana and for that reason Brigadier Cronje, perhaps I had better knowledge of the geographic area of Wade Adams and so forth, ... ... And it’s very important for us in this country to understand what this is about. There is a perception that people like the applicants especially APLA cadres should not be granted amnesty, they must get their just deserts. Now I’m putting that in context, there’s been a lot of killing and the ... ... will hear accounts of human rights violations right across the political spectrum. In East London we had people who were the victims of an alleged APLA atrocity. In East London we heard from victims of bombing in Highgate Hotel. In Cape Town we heard someone come to speak on behalf of a ... there were some other criminal activities which happened to be perpetuated by the very same system amongst our communities turning our MK cadres and APLA cadres into askaries and all those things. We happen to live in this era. The situation came to change not because of their wishful thinking ... MR FOURIE: Mr Chairperson, I was part of C2 who did research on MK and APLA members, we did have photo albums of refugees and we also had names of these people that we tried to identify, and I also had an interest in that and I knew that there were names of refugees in that office. ... and the National Peacekeeping Force, was seemingly running out of steam as it were. We heard on television that there were members of MK and APLA within the Peace Keeping Force, we did not shoot at that group, we assisted them to attack the people who were shooting us from the houses and ... The policemen were kidnapped, and a number of firearms were taken during the raid. The telephone lines were cut, and the applicants wrote the words APLA on the wall and in the charge office so as to confuse the police who would later investigate that ... gave permission against APLA Forces, you recall their people being shot at that occasion, but not all cases I was responsible for bringing about, for brokering the conference on enmity between the South African Defence Force, South African Police and APLA in Harare. Botswana in connection with Apla arms. The PAC army. I was arrested by Nkosi Mutisana and Kleynhans. They took me to Vereeniging and De Deur and from De Deur they took me to Pretoria Central. There I was a very sick man. I was bleeding from my private parts and in my anus as well. I asked the ... our intelligence services. In the case of the Umtata raid it was based on extensive surveillance that had indicated that the target was, indeed, an APLA base. This was, according to the reports that I received, substantiated by two independent police sources. ... ... Commander of C1, and Col Martin Naude was the Commander of C2. Our work at C2 was the identification of terrorists as well as research on MK and APLA ... MR DE KOCK: Yes, this morning I tried to remember, because somewhere somebody should have been able to say, either from the organisations, APLA, or whatever, would have been able to say who this man was, and I started wondering whether he perhaps wasn't a Zambian citizen or an agent. MR PRINSLOO: I was attached to Unit C. Unit C at that stage had to trace MK and Apla terrorists and infiltrators, and to investigate terrorism like bomb explosions and assassinations and also gathering Intelligence regarding such infiltrators and activists and also their activities in the country. |