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MR HATTINGH: You were never an askari, you were a policeman from the beginning, is that correct?

... Yes Chairperson, I also realised that and I thought back to what Nortje had told me. They sent in Mosiane, they tried to lure him by means of an askari. An askari is not a person who presents himself as a terrorist, he is a person who is a terrorist, he was a terrorist before, and Japie ...

Rifle Mbatha, SADF, Const Vilakazi, CIS Secretary Branch, Nelspruit, Jerry Dlamini, SADF, Alfeus Mondlane, SADF Nelspruit, ...(indistinct) Masego an askari, Sgt Lynn, SAP, CIS Nelspruit, Const Hlope, SAP, CIS Komatipoort, Lucky Sambo, SADF, Major van Jaarsveld, SAP CIS, Nelspruit, Col van Zyl, ...

MR CORNELIUS: And then finally, you would agree that if the information had been disclosed by an askari, for example the names and identities of askaris, their addresses, registration numbers of their vehicles, that could endanger Vlakplaas.

... down and they phoned others. They said, today we found the terrorist. There was also a person who was there by the name of Sam. They said he's and Askari and Sam said it is better to - you must - you had better tell them where are the guns, or else you won't live long. I said to them, I'm not in ...

Mosiane testified that he was carrying out an order from his superior when he burnt the Sacred Heart Church Hall and believed that he was acting to protect the previous regime which he, as an askari, was defending at the relevant time during the current political conflict.

Mr de Kock, I am representing Daniel Nkala. I believe that he was an askari at the Vlakplaas unit.

MR JANSEN: Why for example, did you not send in an example to move around in the vicinity of the house, one of the black members or an Askari to patrol in the vicinity of the house?

MR CALLAGHAN: That is the only reason. I understand Mr Malan's question in that I was housed while seconded to Koevoet, in the askari prisoner of war camp and so it would have been common practice to have brought them back to that camp and having turned them. I don't know why in this incident ...

... possibly true". It would follow in these proceedings the Committee finds itself in a situation where we've essentially got the, let's call it the Askari version and we've go the Port Elizabeth version, and the two versions cannot, there is a conflict between them, to some extent. Of course ...

MR DANDALA: What I was trying to explain here is that there is this word askaris. I did not know it. I used to know the word trained terrorist. Trained terrorist. I got to know the word askari after they were killed. I mean after the killing of Ndondo.

MR LAMEY: And it was in that capacity as an askari that you got involved with these two incidents that are before the Committee?

After becoming an Askari he was sent on different missions under the command of a Security Police Officer. While being in Durban he was ordered by Major Andy Taylor to accompany Nicholas Dube, Mshengu Mavuso, Mike Lembede, Spyker Myeza and Mgabazi to petrol bomb two houses.

So this thing made me to be very much suspicious that there might be a relationship between these two people but then I also had some reservations about Temba’s information since I got the information that he is a very dangerous person and he is also an Askari.

MS SOOKA: Mr Dempsey did you know that Temba Mbatha, rather I should ...(tape ends) was an askari?

CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR VISSER: Thank you Mr Chairman. Mr Ramatala, I'm just interested to know, in 1987 were you an askari or were you a policeman?

Mr Snyders, I would just like to clear up a few aspects with you. On page 265 you say the askari arrived - that's in the second paragraph.

MR PIGOU: No, I understand that Senior Superintendent Dempsey but a witness of this importance, an Askari who had been inside the house of Mrs Mandela for some time, providing you with invaluable information - some of the notes that you’ve provided us include hand-written notes about instructions ...

MR KOOPEDI: I've seen your application form or rather the statement you submitted to the Amnesty Committee, you referred to him as an askari?

When were you given a description of the Askari’s from Vlakplaas who were with these men?