askari

MS P BERLIN:: So, can you tell us a bit about Vlakplaas hierarchy in paragraph 23, I understand that you became an Askari, and under whom did you fit into the Vlakplaas hierarchy, who was your commander?

CHAIRPERSON: But don't we know that Vlakplaas was eliminating, even evidence we've heard for the past three years is that even if an askari was deviant, Mr de Kock wouldn't hesitate to take him out or eliminate him, to use the words used in the "omsendbriewe"?

told the TRC that their missing children had last been seen in the company of Mrs Madikizela-Mandela and that the TRC had received evidence from the askari who had killed these children and had not called on him to speak in public, Mr Leon was informed that the TRC by means of Mr Patrick Kelly, ...

MR LAMEY: If we study the Sikhakane matter which will be heard in the future, it is an askari from Natal and Vlakplaas was asked to act?

... that on a certain day he was called by de Kock to his office. There he found him in the company of Bosch and Japie Kok. Flores came there with an askari, Chris Mogopa, an ex-PAC cadres. De Kock told him that there was a mission to carry out in Swaziland. He wanted Flores and Mogopa to send a ...

MR HUGO: But that you were attached to Vlakplaas, not in the capacity of an askari, but that you were a regular member of the Police, as it was then known?

MR LAMEY: That is correct. You also say in your statement that afterwards there was identification by means of an askari, is it of that person?

MR NKOSI: No, I didn't know his name. And during our arrest in 1988, Webster was separated from us and during the trial in Delmas Webster, according to the information I got, he was a State witness who ended up working with the police, who ended up being an Askari member.

MS LOCKHAT: So you were an askari, abducted by the South African Police, and you regarded yourself as a soldier after that. Can you comment on that?

... arrested in January 1987, soon after his return to South Africa. After being held in custody and allegedly being tortured, he agreed to become an askari. He was based at Vlakpaas under Col De Kock. He had come to Durban as part of operations to identify and arrest other MK and APLA ...

MR CORNELIUS: Did you know it was an Askari?

... Police, and he was captured when his ammunition was finished. Later he was taken to Mafekeng and interrogated and later he decided to join the Askari group and now he has crossed the floor and was working with the 'system'. ...

... of casualties and particularly conscript casualties was becoming very, very high and one can see this in the rate of casualties between Operation Askari and the ones that came earlier. It was just a quantum leap and the SADF was hypersensitive to White conscription. I don't think anti-White ...

CHAIRPERSON: Was this informer, Mr Mathebula, an askari?

... could recall. The evidence of de Kock and others and that of the fifth applicant, S.J. Visser, as to whether Msibi was eventually turned into an Askari differs substantially. It is however clear that De Kock’s association with Msibi had come to an end much earlier than that of S.J. Visser and ...

MR NIEUWOUDT: I cannot remember that, the only Askari that I knew who was present was Moss whom I knew personally.

He further testified that he became disillusioned with the ANC and deserted them. It is common cause that he became an Askari.

Lastly Mr Chairman, just a remark which was made by you to Mr Ngubane, regarding askaris. An askari per definition of our past, was a person who had previously been a member or supporter of the ANC or another liberation movement, who had been turned to use that expression and who was applied ...

until 1986. On the day in question, he and Jimmy Mbane were deployed at the taxi rank at the Baragwanath Hospital in Soweto. They were both former askaris who had been appointed as members of the South African Police. They were in search of liberation force operatives or illegal arms. At some ...

MR TSOLO: He was an askari, Chairperson.