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askariExplanation Showing 221 to 240 of 325 First Page•Previous Page 8 •9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 Next Page•Last PageMR MOLEFE: That is correct and from the evidence it appears that he in actual fact crossed sides in that he apparently became an Askari. This particular person apparently also had a lot to do with this particular incident in that he's the one who provided Mr Toka with the intelligence report. ... MR ROBERTSHAW: I saw him, he was an askari. Hatiso Kadi was an askari and he often came to Ladybrand. MR BIZOS: We are discussing this case, that is why we believe that introducing examples of other situations like the askari. The askari may be between the devil and the deep blue sea. He may have to go to jail if he doesn't listen to his captors or - but we are dealing with these particular ... ... from home. It is through your work, in fact after her disappearance reports were carried in the South African media suggesting that she was now an askari, and therefore the family and the ANC, many in the ANC lived in the belief that she had deserted the ANC to work for the enemy, it is through ... of Vlakplaas was no longer the political playing field. I was requested to go over so that I could remove the Vlakplaas members, which included the Askari members from the political arena to the criminal arena, which I then did and as soon as the 24th of March 1991 an abridged course was ... MR VAN RENSBURG: I think that one was an askari who had formally served at Vlakplaas. I would imagine but I'm not certain. I think so, but I suspect that I may be mistaken, he may have come after me to Port Elizabeth, he doesn't really ring a bell in my mind but during the amnesty hearing I was ... ... they hope that it will be known not only in this room, but in public as well, especially where they live in KwaMashu, that Mr Dion Cele was not an askari or an informer, because all along they've been harassed by the community they live in because there were those rumours that Mr Dion Cele was ... MR BIZOS: We are discussing this case, that is why we believe that introducing examples of other situations like the askari. The askari may be between the devil and the deep blue sea. He may have to go to jail if he doesn't listen to his captors or - but we are dealing with these particular ... ... went with me to Unit D. For example Brian Nxqulunga was not transferred to Unit D or to Vlakplaas at that time whereas Pete Mogai was - another Askari. And then there was another one, Edgar, another Askari who worked with us, who, if I am not mistaken, was transferred to ... ... in COSAS, by one Joe Mamasela, a member f Unit C10. Thereafter Mamasela was assisted by Thinyelwa Daniel Nkala (the 2nd Applicant), who was an askari member of Unit C10. Together they made contact with approximately twenty members of COSAS under the pretence that they were members of MK. ... ADV LAMEY: So you were a permanent force member or permanent member of the police from the time that you joined the police, you weren’t an Askari? MR MOHLABA: Are you saying that in this particular case, you had a source which provided you with information, which source was not security officer or an Askari, is that correct? ... who had been the Commissar at Catengue camp. When he was sent back into the country he immediately reported to his handlers, and became the first Askari. Pharoah Mogale had been a political instructor at the camp, and was later deployed to the Youth Secretariat at HQ in Lusaka. Another ... ... is in fact the core upon which this application turns, I will ask you to take into consideration Mr de Kock's admission that Mr Msibi was not an askari, he had not become an informer, he was in fact a man of integrity, to take into consideration the circumstances which led to his abduction. ... MR B WILLIAMS: Mr Mbelo, you will agree that you could have been transferred out of Vlakplaas at any stage, you were a policeman, you were not an askari? Do you agree with that? Om terug te kom by die deelname van Vlakplaas en die Askari’s in hierdie voorval. Is u getuienis dat op geen stadium is u ingelig oor hierdie aspek van die optrede nie. ... the infiltration route from Botswana that the Chand house was the only route into the country from Botswana. Mr Ras has stated that there was an askari from the Lichtenburg incident, who had come through that route who they didn't seek to, or he couldn't recollect whether they had spoken to ... MR HATTINGH: Mr Nkala, as an askari at Vlakplaas your work procedure was that you would go out to a certain area for some three weeks, you would then return to Vlakplaas and then you would be given off the last week of the month, is that correct? MR MKHWANAZI: It was not as easy because the Security Forces had deployed Askaris around and these Askari members are people with whom we trained, they knew me. They could easily identify me, pinpoint me, shoot me or get me arrested. That was after the ANC was unbanned. those times, ended up working with the enemy, getting money by killing people, therefore if I didn't want to collaborate with the enemy, becoming an askari, therefore meaning I would be killed. If you can remember very well, during those times some of the things that were happening were horrible. ... |