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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation "We dropped the IFP Chairlady and we discussed that we should indeed have this operation. We returned home, the three of us. As we were at Nklasagazi before we crossed the bridge, people from Montabela should know this area, we met some women who were standing along the road. MR RAUTENBACH: I want to ask you Mr Mostert, you reach this point. It was the second time that he had been shocked, it’s the second time that he had jerked and still there is no co-operation. How would it proceed now? What was in your mind? What were you thinking? MR GALELA: What I would like to say is that I did not live peacefully because what the police did then was that they had a, they conducted an operation known as Hot Pursuit and even then they said that there were many ways to skin a cat. This is what the Boers said. Thereafter they killed the ... ... in our office. Van Jaarsveld was present in the bus while we were waiting for Mamasela to lure this security guard to the bus. This whole operation and the interrogation in the Warmbad environment was under instruction of Van Jaarsveld and also he participated in the assault and he was ... ... herein and are satisfied that the Applicants have complied with the requirements of the Act. It is quite clear that they intended to carry out an operation against members of a liberation movement, the ANC, which was in conflict with the erstwhile regime. We also accept that they have given a ... MR MPSHE: Now further on in your evidence again you refer to Hani and you say Hani was trying to get rid of Nelson Mandela. I refer here to Operation Vula, you recall that? MR NEL: Paragraph 14, Mr Hanton, you deal with the incident in question, where you received instructions from Col de Kock regarding what you had to do, and you say there that you believed that the authority to take part in the operation, emanated from higher authority. MR VISSER: Alright. Would that be a fund or a payment when an MK cadre was going to start a new operation? The only specific offence referred to in her application relates to her being involved in the transfer of arms that were under the general control of Operation Vula to dead letter boxes, DLBs, in some of the areas which were worst hit by political violence including the Vaal Triangle and the ... MR NKUNA: It is not me who said he shall be attacked, but Soli suggested it because they were at Joe's house and they were there to see that that kind of an operation is being undertaken to attack an informer or a traitor. MR BIZOS: Aren’t you really contrasting your attitude in relation to co-operation between what you were prepared to tell the SAP and what you were not prepared to tell these foreigners? MR PIGOU: Did you not find it strange Father Mkhatswa that you were engaged in such an operation? I mean I personally find it very peculiar that to find out something what is essentially very simple and straightforward whether someone is being held against their will or whether they are being ... MR DU PLESSIS: And your viewpoints were also in this operation that you were under the overhead command of Col de Kock, is that correct? MR VISSER: Alright. Would that be a fund or a payment when an MK cadre was going to start a new operation? Mr Flores, you've prepared an application in terms of Section 18 of Act 34 of 1995, presented it to the TRC Committee in Cape Town and provided your full co-operation with the TRC Committee's Investigating Team, is that correct? ... what I did say I delegated my powers, I mean you don't expect the Commissioner to go and sit there and really go into detailed arrangements for an operation like that. And as I have explained Brigadier Ngcobo and Major Simms they were the two people in charge down there, but I went there as ... MR TOPI DOMINIC TLADI: In September 1984, it was on the 3rd, in Sharpeville we were having an operation clean up. Just when we finished cleaning up we decided to go and have some lunch. Just before we went home we stood at the corner of the street together with my friends. We were talking and as ... MR WESSELS: And you then, indeed, at the second opportunity comprised the operation or the organisation. MR LAMEY: Because nobody mentioned Mr Willemse's name here actually and if Mr Willemse on the basis that he went along with you to visit Mr Radebe, then Mr Willemse would have known about the actual operation. ... something had to be done. The decision to eliminate Mangane was then taken, with the further approval of the late Chris Hani to whom the Swaziland operation was directly ... |
