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PassExplanation Showing 661 to 680 of 833 First Page•Previous Page 30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 Next Page•Last Page... very much for telling us your side of the story. After Ruth has spoken, I would like to make some comments about your testimony as well. Could we pass the microphone on to Ruth, please. Ruth, are you going to speak in Xhosa or in ... ... back 20 years. You have the loss now and the silence that you were suffering. Thank you very much for that. I have no further questions. I will pass you back to the Chair, thank ... JUDGE WILSON: They would have to go in, pass that wall, you couldn't shoot from here? To pass that, I also wish to submit, Chairperson, Honourable Committee Members that all that was done or admitted to have been done before you by the applicants, none of the applicants received anything that is materially beneficial to them, there was no material personal gain. It is also my ... We decided to pass and come from the other angle, because the other angle, it gave us more opportunity and more chance of not hitting the civilians which were drinking, sitting and drinking there. ... if our radio was at such a volume that I would have heard him at that stage because time was a problem for us, we expected that those people would pass us at any point in time and therefore we focused our attention at the road so as not to miss this ... MR HATTINGH: And if one drives past there, one would pass within 50 metres of it? MR DEHAL: And apart from Mr Webster's independent recall(?), also on one occasion Mr McBride said he was on a social outing and he happened to pass this place and he had his eye on the Why Not as well. ... he came, it was about in November when he was already buried, our son, he came at a time when one of our comrades Chris Hani had died. Then he passed by our house just to pass and convey sympathies to us saying that he knew this child, he underwent military training with him and how he ... When proceeding towards the north, where the war between the Zulus and the English people took place is the very same place where the roads have to pass through. That's ... ... such and such a place, or yesterday we did this and that and tomorrow we have to do this and that and we have to close this road and if the police pass here we have to dig big holes so that police Casspirs can fall in there and we can throw petrol bombs there", that's how stupid they were at ... ... a satisfactory basis what their motive was, what the circumstances were, what the special objective was and whether or not it was proportional. To pass the buck the way they all did here from the lowest to the highest is evidence of the fact that they were not bona fide, that they merely entered ... MR MBANDAZAYO: Can you tell the Committee to which standard - which standard did you pass at school? CHAIRPERSON: Pass it through Mr Hattingh, because he would be testifying. ... proportionality as the Act charges us to do, Mr Chairman within the context of the conflict of the past, this particular matter certainly must pass that test of proportionality and for that statement, for that submission we rely on previous amnesty applications and decisions handed down by ... the military vehicles around that area. They were moving I think between Block H and Block F in Soshanguve and one of the military vehicles used to pass there. I went to Ting-Ting and briefed him about this and on the particular day we went there during the day to show Ting-Ting the spot and get ... MS GCABASHE: Yes, but what did you then pass on to your men, you know, you had no timeframes, you knew you did not want to injure persons, that was the instruction, when would this have to be done to make sure that these things in fact did not happen, you know, people were not injured? ... hiding but still looking after it so that when you realise that this is not a person who is attacking you should remove it so that the person can pass. It so happened in many times in the past that this thing of judging others racially and referring to people as Xhosas and Zulus, that shall be ... MR NADASEN: Thank you. Mr Mdletshe, you said that, did you complete standard 3, did you pass standard 3? ... place. We can't judge whether they were on a frolic on their own or not, by Cronje or Hechter, they have no knowledge of this incident. They can pass no judgement on that incident and I think the evidence is that they were reliable people in general and they should accept their word or what ... |