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people's warExplanation And hence I'm saying that if you look in all these operations in which Madasi was involved also Heidelberg, St James, Crazy Beat Disco in Durban and all others which are similar to them, where it was an offence attack, you find that most of the time the people who were involved, it's rare that you ... MR DE KOCK: Yes, everybody was enthusiastic. People would have had fist fights in order to be first in line. Today of course they're fighting to be last in line but I will tell you that everybody was enthusiastic about it. We felt at that time, that as the leadership, we had to take the political responsibility for what had happened, and therefore declined to take up that offer. We do not have any direct knowledge of who participated in the assault, but we do know however, that there were two people associated with ... CHAIRPERSON: And wasn't it part of that agreement that people handing in their weapons wouldn't be prosecuted? MR MPSHE: Thank you Mr Chairman and members of the Committee. Mr Chairman, we’re going to start with the application of Stephen Mqeketsi Monyake, application number 1352/96. Mr Chairman, I just want to put on record that all the people affected by this application, that is the victims and next of ... MR LYSTER: Mrs Mukosi, you have got people here with you today. Who have you got with you? Now in August there was the Pollsmoor march and many people were caught up in that, do you remember that? The Applicant relies solely on the alleged instructions by Zulu, which, as communicated by Mr van der Hyde, Zulu denies. Zulu though did not testify and the denial carries less weight than the allegation by the Applicant, made under oath. There is however the fact, not explained by the Applicant, ... They had gone quite a long way towards formulating rights of children who had run foul of the law. I spoke to Professor Sas Strauss and I spoke to all sorts of people. I went to the main library at Wits and I read through the Prisons Act and I read through the Criminal Procedures Act and all I ... CHAIRPERSON: We wonder, is there any doctor in our midst here? Just to go and help us with Mrs Makghato. She has just, you know, just first-aid people perhaps. You can continue, Piet. Even then they said the people who shot was Tise just because Tise had the permission to carry the gun. But the thing was not like that, everything was quiet then up until today. I for one - I’m with my crippled son. I didn’t - he was not born like this, he was born as a normal child but now ... Somerset East. The doctor didn't give me proper medicine. I think their aim was to let me die. When I came back from that doctor I became very sick. The station commander said that this is not a proper medicine for this person and if this person can die we will be in trouble. I was taken to ... MR BOB: It was on a Sunday in the morning. I was talking to Nunusi telling her that she must wash my T-shirt because I was going to wear it as I was going to work. She told me that there was no soap so I gave her R5 and I told her to go and buy some. She went to do this and after she had gone a ... DR RANDERA: Tata you talk about having spent 12 years on Robben Island and those from my reading of people who have been there was some of the darkest days on that prison. Can you tell us something about your experiences on the island. MS MAKOPE: You see at the time when he disappeared we didn't know what had happened to him, he had just gone to work as far as we were concerned. But there is a person who came, a ...(indistinct), apparently he went to the business and found Andrew's aunt and he told Andrew's aunt that at the ... CHAIRPERSON: Mr Visser, I have my own estimate on how long the KwaNdebele 9 is likely to run, but that's my personal view. I am really at the hands of the people who will be presenting evidence and putting questions after each applicant has presented his evidence-in-chief. CHAIRPERSON: But what would you say to the case of an applicant who, just as an example, applies for assaulting persons in detention and lists 80 people that he might have assaulted and then says: "Look, I've tried my hardest, these are the people I can remember", he comes to the hearing and two ... ... in front of this Commission, their names have been named as the perpetrators, they would like to contradict what was said by the victims. We are aware that there are two people who notified us that they would like to appear in front of us today. They are here with their legal representatives, ... On the day when they arrived they were driving caspers. They were all around the town looking for me. Well when I arrived at home they were not there anymore, everything wasn't in its position. They were looking even in the toilet. That is when I called Matthew. I said to him Matthew I want ... Chairperson, the initial investigations which were initiated was an attempted murder with regard to a landmine which was placed under a police vehicle and not enough evidence could be obtained in order to prosecute them, and then it was in Silverton, where there was a landmine explosion, Pretoria ... |
