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people's warExplanation MR VISSER: Well the situation here, Mr Botha, is that you weren't really a lot of people who could address the problem of the struggle of the past here in Natal, is that correct? The false explanation in this regard, reinforces the above finding that the list was compiled as a hit list with the intended victims prioritised as indicated on the list. Walus also reconnoitred the home of President Mandela who was identified as the first target on the hit list. This conduct ... MR BIZOS: Mr Chairman, Mr Chairman, I'm sorry to interrupt my learned friend. The witness is reading the narrative part of the actions which he took. I would submit with respect, that reading out from a prepared document on issues upon which the credibility of the witness has to be weighed is not ... I am of the opinion that the applicant fall within the ambit of Section 20 (2) (a) and/or (f). It is true that a person like Amos (accepted to be "a well known IFP leader" in the area) did not have the authority to impose orders upon the applicant to commit murder. As a matter of fact nobody in ... MRS WALTERS: My husband was a victim in the Church Street bombing as already mentioned earlier. It happened in 1983. As far as we know 19 people died and more than 200 people were injured. My husband was seriously injured that night. PRETORIA HEARING TRC/GAUTENG CHAIRPERSON: If you require a little more time I am prepared to stand down to enable you to consult the people. MS COLERIDGE: Yes, thank you Chairperson. The first applicant on the roll today Chairperson, is Mr Mamphaga. I just want to inform the Commission that the following people are implicated people and that we've also been informed by the applicant that these persons, Mr Steve Kumba, his Commander, ... 8. Malicious damage to the house of the people mentioned under 7 and the burning of Alet Schoon's car. Let me say this once more, that these small towns have suffered. They have suffered because of what people did so we thank you for coming all the way from Indwe to give us testimony on Fumanekile Jacobs. Could you please put on your headphones so I am going to hand you over to someone who is ... The applicant knew what the intention of the group was which he willingly joined. The only ventures of this group was to deal with people who assisted the apartheid regime in any way whatsoever. People came around because they had seen these two policemen. And wanted to know what is happening. And they said, we are shooting. That is what happened. While that was happening, I called my son. He was standing outside and I called him and he didn't want to come inside. And that was what ... It was the 19th of May in 1986 at about 10 o’clock perhaps 11 o’clock - there was unrest along the Q-block. Both children and elderly people were helping a UDF member to move. There were Casspirs casing our young boys - Casspirs driven by the boers. ADV VISSER: So you could have shot or hit some of the people inside the kombi? Perhaps I should ask Brig Loots just to explain one further thing. Were you present when the people entered Botswana, did you see who they were? MRS MAGAWANA: They said that because my husband joined Congo, Undlovu. He then recruited other people. They would have meetings at Kanaga in Mziko in the mountain. The Chief did not like this. He would pretend as if he was going to join then, meanwhile he is taking their names down. Then ... MS SEATLHOLO: I am Dorothy Seatlhlolo. I am the wife of the late Sydney Maphalala. My husband was shot. He was killed brutally in 1976 by a car which was going around killing people in Soweto. It's a car, I always see it going up and down killing people in the township, until on the 27th of ... MR BOTHA: After the small charge of explosives had been put together I made some phone calls to the cinemas where I warned the people there that bombs had been placed as a result of the screening of Cry Freedom. 4.1 They stole the vehicle (i) so as to be able to move around, (ii) to steal or rob people or institutions of weapons on a small scale and later, using these ill-gotten weapons (iii) attack bigger depots for more weapons and then (iv) arm as many people as they would have in the meantime recruited ... When my wife went out to look she just collapsed. Nonkonyane said that he will sent his people. Our house were burnt down and our furniture. MR BOTHA: Is this an all inclusive list or is it that you may be mistaken about the names of some of the people and where you incorrectly are nominating people who were present and that you have omitted persons who were indeed present? |
