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people's warExplanation Showing 161 to 180 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 5 •6 •7 •8 •9 •10 •11 •12 •13 Next Page•Last PageMR MOGAPI: Mr Viljoen is not right when he says many people were armed. When we arrived, it was - it was a lot of people, it was chaotic and the taking of the money happened in a very short time. I think he thought there might have been many people, yet it was only one person who had a firearm. JUDGE DE JAGER: Why do you say he practised a bad medicine, what did he do that was so bad? Because some people are doing good things, some bad, what did he do that you considered to be bad medicine tradition? MR KHUMALO: I will say that at that time, I was staying at the offices in Ulundi. Mhlanduna arrived with others and he asked if there are people, or whether there were people who wanted to go to Claremont to Mr Yamile's house and guard there because the situation was quite bad. MR KHWEZA: You say Bobbie was with two other people. Do you know who were they? like that happened, people used to question many questions and get answers for themselves. MR BOOYENS: Did you then give the radio signal that the people were being led in? MS MAYA: In the statement before us on which your evidence today will be based we find that you are going to speak about Phumzile Gladwell Plaatjies, who was also part of the crowd of the people who was killed on 21 March 1985. I would like you to please tell us when did you hear that Phumzile was ... MR CORNELIUS: Before the operation you gathered at Honeydew, there were various members of the Security Branch, you cannot recall the specific names of these people? MR DU TOIT: Mr Chairperson, I would just like to confirm the following, with explosives there are no guarantees, it's always a very unsafe or dangerous set-up, but depending on the explosives and the way in which it is opened, one can have a relatively clear anticipation of what could happen. If ... MR HATTINGH: Yes and after his departure there were still some of the Witbank people in the vehicle who were busy with the deceased. CHAIRPERSON: Listen to my question. Under way to the house, what did you think was going to happen once the bomb had been placed? People would definitely have died? MR VAALTYN: There was chaos all over. The police were all over the area. There was shooting all over, the police were shooting at people. MR WILLIAMS: Now Mr Mbelo, I want to ask you, before you filled in your application for amnesty did you discuss this particular incident with any of the people that were involved in this incident? MR NAZO: I stayed for a month, but one Sunday when the Boers were beating us certain people cried. We were then released on Monday. The applicants and their companions believed that they were acting onbehalf of the Bafokeng people in furtherance of their political struggle against anoppressive regime. Some time between 1990 and 1991 the Applicant was transferred by his superiors to Bloemfontein where they operated from a farm outside the city. He states that the Security Police and askaris used that farm as an "office base". Activists would be taken there for torture and questioning. One of ... MR MAMMBURU: I was arrested on the same day. The van took us to the deceased's kraal and we saw a big truck, there were other people on top of the roof who were just removing the zinc and stuff like that. MRS GQINEBE: On the 19th of March 1990 the Comrades were giving people some stands, vacant stands and as they were soldiering that, I do not know what happened later on, but the police came and the police started shooting and people 1. That the offence to rob weapons from the deceased was associated with a political objective. That the robbery of the other items were for personal gain. The act, however, doesn’t provide for amnesty on a portion of a charge where all the items were grouped together under one charge and the ... MR KRUGER: I was definitely not the first to shoot. To my right were people who started |
