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Upington 26Explanation MR POTGIETER: Thank you Glenda. Wendy? Mr Mokgatla, these Zulu policemen that you speak about, were they from Upington or were they foreign people from somewhere else, strange people? --- Yes, they were foreign people. I think maybe they were ordered to come and just assault people all over. ... And Advocate Potgieter who like me, comes from the Cape Town office, we thank him once again. He comes straight here from being involved in the hearing in Upington so he has had a very heavy load to carry in recent weeks. ... we have a problem or we have to go to Court and so on and then we had some representatives, they came, they all came, even here they came as far as Upington also. They had people like ... [Indistinct] and so on but the others I have ... During the 1980's Mr P.W. Botha who had succeeded Vorster as Prime Minister in 1978 embarked on his process of reform away from the rigid apartheid ideology of Verwoerd. His adapt or die speech in Upington in August of 1979 heralded a number of reforms in the socio-economic and political fields. ... heard the background to the Upington 26th case in which you were involved as an accused, in fact together with your late husband, so we have a good grasp of the background, the context in which the incident happened. As I said you were one of the persons that were accused in the trial that ... ... in their fight, and if they do not stop them at the Angolan Border, we will have to fight them at the South African Boarder, just north of Upington. Which is quite close to Nieuwoudville, where he grew ... ... as an apprentice kettle maker. I worked there for about six months, when I was called up for National Service. I was called up to 8 SAI in Upington, which when I arrived there, in July 1979 I arrived there and started with my basic training. ... ... me home and they said no, I can only take you down for the funeral and I said no madam, I cannot wait till then, I had to go then. The train to Upington had already left and I had to take the train passing through Bloemfontein. When I arrived home I saw people sitting there, sitting around. ... ... An attack of that nature, blood that has flowed and then reactions at the United Nations, and this was what bothered me. If I then go to Upington or Pofadder and hold there a meeting in the midst of the Seychelles debacle then very few people at that meeting in question time would even ... 1.2.10. the attack on a railway line at Upington which took place on 26 September 1982; This Red Major, is he still in the police service in Upington? --- This Red Major is not a policeman anymore. He is now, lives now in Kimberley. He is now a reverend in Kimberley. ... leadership positions, like the person who was here before, the truth must come out and there are a lot of friends we had, they are still working in Upington, they were leaders then and at that time I did not admit that they were ... I should have queried it and said, look you can't use the word eliminate and then you give a list of the tasks to be performed by the policemen. In Upington he must perform certain grab operations, etc etc and turn operations and it doesn't mean eliminate in other language. So you are entirely ... The case that you spoke about, where was that held? --- It, this case was in Upington Court but we only heard through people that he will be going to Court at such, such a day but I did not want to go but only my brothers went there. They were not called but they went there due to hearsay and ... So as our Chairperson has said in the previous cases, our investigative team has visited the Upington police station to look for the relevant documents and have been informed that all the records for the period 1985 to 1993 have been destroyed, but we will be following this up. I would like to ... ... wat die getuienis gelei het van die Komitee, my geskakel en gesê dat my kliënt geïmpliseer gaan word, toe sê ek vir hom - wel, ek is toe op pad Upington toe en waar moet ek nou my kliënt kry, die oggend voor die verhoor? Aan die einde van die amnestie aansoek was daar opdrag gegee deur sy ... |
