Vlakplaas

In 1986 you were recruited to Vlakplaas.

Yesterday afternoon at the adjournment we were discussing the command structure of Vlakplaas at Security Head Office and how the structure appeared. Can you recall that?

MR LAMEY: To arrive at the Nelspruit incident, you mention in paragraph 1 that one of the members of Vlakplaas gained information with regard to ANC persons who wanted to launch an operation.

ADV BOOYENS: And in November of 1989 the whole of C Section of the Security Police including Vlakplaas were placed under your control and command?

Thank you chairperson, Superindendent Liebenberg, was daar lede van Vlakplaas betrokke by hierdie optrede?

CAPT MENTZ: At no stage, Chairperson. I was at Vlakplaas.

occasions you submitted a supplementary bundle of evidence which was prepared for the very first session of the Amnesty Committee which investigated Vlakplaas activities and the document also confirms that it is the supplementary affidavit of E A de Kock for Vlakplaas, is that ...

CHAIRPERSON: Right, we now are starting with the matter involving the killing of Pumelo Moses Ntehelang in the canteen at Vlakplaas. I, Andrew Wilson am the Chairman of the Committee, the Members are ...

MR HUGO: You arrived at Vlakplaas?

MS P BERLIN:: Was this farm Vlakplaas, of which farm was this?

... the second improbability that I'd like to deal with, Mr Chairman, is his version that Mr de Kock agreed to his request to accept Mr Mabotha back at Vlakplaas and to keep him there safely. Having regard to the fact that Mr de Kock testified that he was involved in a very severe and degrading ...

MR WILLIAMS: Do you also confirm that you took part in the assault on Mr Maponya at Vlakplaas?

MR LAMEY: Very well. At that stage, let us accept that this was September 1985, were you a fulltime member of Vlakplaas, or Unit C1, or with which unit were you?

CHAIRPERSON: And then at page 165 you talk of your return to Vlakplaas when almost all of the members were under the influence of alcohol.

MR HUGO: Very well. As with the other hearings you made supplementary affidavits and submitted documents. The first one is the general background, an introduction, and then you also made a further affidavit, a supplementary affidavit which is more about Vlakplaas, is that correct?

and we have also finished with the applicants who were at the time based at Port Elizabeth and we are now starting with Col De Kock who was based at Vlakplaas. I think we should proceed after Mr De Kock to hear those applicants who were at that time also based at Vlakplaas, in order to maintain ...

MR KNIGHT: Now from the period approximately 1982 until the end of Vlakplaas you were based there. Is that correct?

General, may I just obtain some background information from you? Before you were stationed at Vlakplaas you were respectively in the Eastern Transvaal and thereafter stationed in the Eastern Cape, is that correct?

MR CORNELIUS: You were then working at Vlakplaas under the command of Eugene de Kock?

MR HATTINGH: But to return to my point here, Mr Potgieter, was it not important for you to know how long the man had been gone away from Vlakplaas? To assess this situation?