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VlakplaasExplanation Showing 201 to 220 of 646 First Page•Previous Page 7 •8 •9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 •15 Next Page•Last PageMR CORNELIUS: You were part of Section C, Vlakplaas and the activities of this unit as described in the two additional Bundles serving before this Committee regarding the activities of Vlakplaas? You were part of Section C1? MR KOOPEDI: After being arrested, is it correct that you finally ended up in Vlakplaas? ... newspaper that the Truth and Reconciliation Commission after the sitting in November said that according to the evidence the incident was a Vlakplaas operation and therefore the seven were executed by implication. I think you’ve cleared the air this morning that no such finding was made ... Mr de Kock, yesterday afternoon we were busy dealing with the position of Vlakplaas, after the unbanning of the organisations such as the ANC. MR DU PLESSIS: And then you went to visit Col de Kock at Vlakplaas, is that correct? We then decided to get a backup and I asked him about Vlakplaas members who were in the area at that stage, he told me that some of them were at the Goldfield Security. We drove through and there we met Mr Vermeulen, Mr van Dyk and there was another person, Douw Willemse. We discussed matters ... MR LAMEY: And did you have any particular training at Vlakplaas? I know the documents mention that you received technical training, demolitions training. ... then told me to contact Mr Freek Pienaar of Piet Retief and Mr Paul van Dyk, because at that stage I knew that Mr Paul van Dyk was originally from Vlakplaas and was at Piet Retief and that the two of them and two or three askaris would be sent to Swaziland to meet with me there and then we will ... However, it is accepted that it was in the interest of the Vlakplaas Unit, the South African Security Police and the Government of the day that the incident be covered up to conceal the way in which members of the Security Police stationed at Vlakplaas had behaved and their relationship with ... MS GOBODO-MADIKIZELA: And you were also head of the security branch there, especially the desk responsible for the ANC/PAC activity linked to the Vlakplaas, is that correct? MR VISSER: I was informed that Captain Dirk Coetzee in his Amnesty Hearing gave evidence that Pillay was first taken to Vlakplaas, that is in bundle 3, page 671 and we must just delete Captain there as well, it's incorrect and that he reported to me, bundle 3 page 672. I do not know that Pillay ... ... was represented by Mr Ngobe. They did not oppose the application. The salient facts are that the 3rd Applicant participated in an operation of Vlakplaas under command of Eugene de Kock working with the Eastern Transvaal Branch under Labuschagne. The home of Muziwakhe Boniface Ngwenya, known ... MR BOTHA: In your amnesty application you describe the incident which took place in the canteen at Vlakplaas, is it possible that you could inform the Committee and describe to the Committee what happened there according to your recollection. At the relevant time the 1st applicant, Colonel de Kock, was commander of Vlakplaas. The 2nd, 7th, 9th, 10th, 13th and 14th applicants were also members of Vlakplaas. The 6th applicant, Frederick Johannes Pienaar was head of the Piet Retief branch, a sub-branch of the Ermelo Branch of the ... realised that I cannot get any deeper with Mahlangu, in other words do the penetration if I did not send somebody else, for example the askaris from Vlakplaas who had background and knowledge of terrorist activities and I would not get any further with the information. That is why I discussed it ... MR HATTINGH: Who was involved in the operation and how did it come to be that Vlakplaas became involved in the operation? ... Galela was screaming endlessly in a cell where he was being kept separately. They say the interrogation was being led by the PE Group and all Vlakplaas Group members participated in the questioning and assault of the deceased. This evidence is accepted as reasonably true and is ... ... sure exactly to what they relate, they have not really been explained, but included in that bundle is documentation relating to the activities of Vlakplaas and a whole series of statistics and one of the statistics I note from those documents is how many arms have been recovered through ... MR LAMEY: You also had the advantage of listening to the evidence of other applicants, especially also the Commander, Mr de Kock. You were a member of Vlakplaas, what was your rank at that stage? MR BOOYENS: And were you in your own mind satisfied that the operation was necessary and that it was part of the tasks of the Vlakplaas' Section C10 to fight terrorism and that this was part of that operation? |