----------------------------------------------------------ADV SANDI: We will proceed to the lady next to Mr Jali. Your full names madam please.

MS PIKA: My name is Eleanor Pika.

CETYIWE ELEANOR PIKA: (sworn states)

ADV SANDI: Who are you going to talk about?

MS PIKA: I am going to talk about my husband, April Pika.

ADV SANDI: Will you briefly tell us what happened to your husband?

MS PIKA: The boers came, took him, beat him up, kicked him, threw him on the floor. They threw him into a police van and took him to town. He was detained for two days in town and then he came back. He was terribly injured.

ADV SANDI: Exactly how was he injured?

MS PIKA: He got injured when they were beating him up.

ADV SANDI: According to your statement Mrs Pika you say that they used the back of the gun to beat him up.

MS PIKA: You say that they were using guns, they would kick him with their boots, slap him on the face, throw him on the floor. That ill-treatment caused his illness.

On his release he was never able to do anything constructive again until he passed away.

ADV SANDI: Which year was it?

MS PIKA: If I am not mistaken he passed away in 1985, according to the documents here.

ADV SANDI: You speak about a child with epileptic fits. Whose child is that?

MS PIKA: It is my child.

ADV SANDI: Do you remember what you said about this child?

MS PIKA: I remember you spoke about this child.

ADV SANDI: Could you repeat please. What did you say about the child. According to your statement you said your child should be given a sickness grant. Is there something else you would like to say, madam? Maybe you have something to say.

MS PIKA: No.

ADV SANDI: Thank you madam.