Special Report Transcript Episode 1, Section 2, Time 12:43

The two security policemen implicated by Joe Mamasela in the disappearance of the Pebco three are Colonel Roelf Venter and this man, Colonel Gideon Niewoudt. He refused to be interviewed this week, but said in a statement from his lawyer that he was in no way involved in their disappearance or death. But, says a senior military officer, I conducted operations with Niewoudt… // Gideon Niewoudt worked in the operation I was the coordinator of, in ‘86 onwards in the Eastern Cape. Their total brief was to go out at night, to pick up known individuals involved in the United Democratic Front, or their alternative leadership structures. They would kidnap, middle of the night, kick down doors, take the individuals they want, take them back to the complex and then interrogate them up to the third degree. // What do you mean by third degree? // Well we made use of … half drownings, electric shocks, tubing: a favourite term that where you step someone’s face into the inner of a car tyre and basically suffocate them. // What was Gideon Niewoudt’s role in this? // Gideon Niewoudt was, say the senior operator of the police contingent in this combined operation. I was in braais where some of the teams were still busy with the subject. We would have a social gathering on this side and then you can hear someone moan in another room.

Notes: Gideon Niewoudt; Col. Gerrie Hugo (Former Military Intelligence) interviewed.

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