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Transcripts for Section 6 of Episode 21
| Time | Summary | | | 32:29 | While proceedings inside the Truth Commission have captured most of the attention, there’s a lot of work being done outside it to compliment and sometimes question the work of Desmond Tutu’s team. Khulumani is one such organisation which has mobilized hundreds of victims in smaller groups in Gauteng. | Full Transcript | | ‘Khulumani’ meaning ‘let us speak out’ is an organisation run entirely by and for the victims and families of victims of human rights violations. Maggie Friedman’s partner, David Webster was shot dead in front of their Troyeville house in 1989. // I became involved in the setting up of Khulumani at the beginning of 1995, a long time before the Truth Commission actually came into being - when people were starting to talk as if they have the voice of victims, but in fact no victims themselves had been consulted. And some of us who know each other through networks decided it was time that real victims’ voices were input to this process. | Full Transcript | | 33:39 | In 1985 Allegria Nyoka’s younger brother Keifus was gunned down in his bedroom at the back of their house. // Certain families experienced exactly what we experienced, others experienced different things but all of them, we are sharing the same grief. And, as the old say, if you are alone you cannot win the battle. So if you are united your voice can be heard. | Full Transcript | | 34:11 | Also, on the steering committee is Sylvia Dhlomo, who lost her son Sicolo. Sylvia works in the Khulumani office taking statements, setting up counseling and arranging weekly and monthly meetings for victims and their families. // We feel pity for our own people who have suffered. That is why it’s our wish to reach everybody who suffered because we are the one who suffered and we know those people suffered the very same pain we suffered. That is why Khulumani is going all out to get people to go and take their cases to the Truth Commission. | Full Transcript | | 34:52 | In many ways the particular concerns of these three women mirror the broader issues at stake. // Certainly for someone like myself it hasn’t been very satisfactory. And you know, having made one’s submission there are a lot of unanswered questions - some of which will obviously never be answered -, but some of which are hanging in this sort of limbo in a process that is difficult to understand. | Full Transcript | | 35:18 | What is distressing me now, and together with the family is that we don’t know the truth. So knowing the truth to us now becomes the prime thing, the most important thing. But as I indicate that I know that the whole thing, the whole issue here, it’s a process. So maybe immediately we know the truth and the people that were perpetrators to this incident are really, really truthful about whatever they’ll be telling us, then it’s then that I can be in the process of learning how to forgive. You know, I don’t think it will be as easy as that, ja that at least I’m happy you told me the truth. | Full Transcript | | 36:24 | A common worry is that the Truth Commission should not become the forgiveness commission. // You know, we have attended a case of, you know just recently, de Kock’s case. He didn’t appear sorry for what he did, and he expects people to say, okay we forgive him … which is very … you know we feel bad about it. | Full Transcript | | 36:47 | I think it’s important for Khulumani to really put their weight behind victims’ causes, I think especially the reparations issue and also on continuing support for victims, because the process doesn’t end with making a statement. | Full Transcript |
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