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Special Report
Transcripts for Section 4 of Episode 31

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32:45We should all be thankful that KwaZulu-Natal has found greater peace the last few months and hope that it will last forever. No more seven day wars, no more Shobashobane’s. The Truth Commission has gone into recess until mid January next year. Earlier I asked Archbishop Desmond Tutu to reflect on the first full year of the Truth Commission.Full Transcript
33:09Bishop Tutu, let’s talk about the two legs of the Truth Commission, the truth leg and the reconciliation leg and truth first as always. Are we really, have we really been getting to the truth in this process? // First of all congratulations on your award. We have certainly done that. We’ve heard the stories of victims and survivors. We were worried that we were not in fact getting the accounts of the perpetrators but now with the amnesty process taking off we are getting that side of the story as well. // Are the attorneys general hindering you or helping you, with their threats of prosecution? Is that the stick that you’ve been looking for? // We would want them to continue their work, they want truth for the purpose of persecution; we want truth for the purpose of reconciliation. But it is quite important that they continue with their work because that is the stick that makes people take the carrot of amnesty. // Have the right kind of people been asking for amnesty? I mean we ...moreFull Transcript
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53:35It just says fulfil these legal obligations and then we sweep the terrain clean and can start on a clean slate. // Let’s talk about the other leg, reconciliation. There’s been a lot of criticism that this has only been the opening of wounds and no real reconciliation. Do you agree with that? // No, I’m amazed actually at what has been taking place. Admittantly we have those occasions. Like the mother of, some of the mothers of the Mamelodi boys, ten I would have been surprised if they immediately at the hearing of the gruesome murder of their children, how their children were murdered, that they could have stood up to say. Yes, we are willing to forgive. But when you think of the white woman in King Williamstown who says after she’s been through a hand grenade attack and there’s shrapnel in her body still. She says that experience has enriched my life. I’m ready to forgive the perpetrator of this deed and I hope he will forgive me. And in Bisho when one of the army ...moreFull Transcript
 
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