Special Report Transcript Episode 5, Section 3, Time 09:05

Gideon Niewoudt is now on trial in the Port Elizabeth Supreme Court for murder. // The Motherwell bombing case. The state alleges that he was involved in the murder of other policemen. // At the Truth Commission hearing this week Niewoudt was once again implicated in torture. Because of the court order, he was referred to as ‘Mister X’ or ‘that policeman we cannot name.’ // So we will ask you that question now Mkhuseli Jack, do you intend to name Gideon Niewoudt as a perpetrator in your testimony? // I think 70 percent of my testimony would have dwelled on the matters relating to the person you mentioned. // Is Niewoudt you’re mentioning here the gentleman who is known as Lieutenant-Colonel Niewoudt, who brought an application for certain names not to be mentioned, certainly not his name. Is that who you are talking about? // That is exactly the person I’m talking about // There was also Mister X who I’m not going to mention today. They said, ‘we are going to castrate you today.’ That’s what Mister X said to me. // People must know that this man, that we’re not supposed to mention, people must know how busy he was, how active he was in the torturing of people. You could see even if he was walking, he was just walking as if he owns the world. // He personally tortured me on more than … look the first time I was tortured I was tortured by Niewoudt, the last time I was tortured I was tortured by Niewoudt. That’s back in 1979. The last time it was 1987 when he put me in the boot of a car, from Port Elizabeth to Fortbrown. Fortbrown is between Grahamstown and Fort Beaufort. In the boot of a car, after having been tortured in Willowdene, where they were torturing and put a canvas over your face. And they did that to me there.

Notes: PE Supreme Court; Photos: Motherwell bombing.; TRC hearing; Commissioner (Reverend Bongani Finca); Mkhuseli; Commissioner (Dumisa Ntsebeza); Dennis Neer; Sicelo Apleni; Mkhuseli; Mkhuseli interviewed