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Transcripts for Section 2 of Episode 58
| Time | Summary | | | 02:00 | Robben Island was a place where apartheid like in all prisons was carried out. Before we talk about the day to day human rights violations of individual prison warders the mere fact that you were black, your clothing was different as if the weather treated you differently. Your food was different, as if you became hungry in a different way. | Full Transcript and References | | 02:55 | They spoke of slave working conditions, harsh physical treatment and of the men who were their tormentors, in particular a collection of five Kleynhans brothers who cracked the whip during their time there. | Full Transcript | | 03:08 | But you see where things really went wrong was in the workplace. The one time the Kleynhans brothers were coming to the … and he says to the people, those that have got licenses could they come one side. All the chaps were very happy, they were going to drive trucks and things and then they found themselves pushing those wheelbarrows, some of them we used to call then ‘break my heart.’ | Full Transcript | | 03:47 | As my colleague has already indicated that the high sense of sadistic humour, they would then call each other, ‘Piet, Piet hoor wat se hy! Hy se vir my, ‘kill me’ nee my Poqo ons gaan jou nie kill nie, ons gaan jou nie shoot nie, die kruiwa gaan jou kill’ [Piet, listen to him! He says ‘kill me,’ no my Poqo, we are not going to kill you, we are not going to shoot you; the wheelbarrow will kill you]. And they would say ‘jy wil die land regeer, jy kan nie eers die graaf regeer nie, jy wil die land regeer jy kan nie eers die kruiwa regeer nie’ [You want to rule the country, but you can’t even rule the shovel. You want to rule the country but you can’t even rule the wheelbarrow]. | Full Transcript and References | | 04:33 | The type of warder who was in charge of us while we were in jail. I mean, there were people, you heard some of the stories he told about the distorted kind of humour which they had and how easy it was for them to resort to brutalities. Now these are human beings, these are people like you and me; how did it come about that people should behave in the way in which these people behaved? How did that happen? | Full Transcript and References | | 05:10 | The Naidoo family has been involved in South African resistance politics for several decades. Theirs is a remarkable story of how four generations of the same family were undeterred by detention and torture. | Full Transcript | | 05:23 | The Naidoo’s of Doornfontein have been involved in the struggle for four generations of their family. Their involvement in politics dates as far back as the 1920s. // Our family has actually been involved in struggle for well over a century. My grandfather already in the latter part of the last century was involved in the struggle. He was a founding member of the Transvaal Indian Congress, in fact the first president of the Transvaal Indian Congress. He was a very close colleague and collaborator with Mahatma Gandhi and the two of them organised a number of campaigns in the latter part of the last century and the early part of this century. My grandfather has got a proud record of going to prison fourteen times. In fact, on the fourteenth time they threatened to expel him, kick him out of South Africa, but despite that he went back to prison. My grandmother, who’s also been to prison on a number of occasions in fact, gave birth while in prison to her last child. My father’s been ...more | Full Transcript and References |
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