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Transcripts for Section 2 of Episode 75
| Time | Summary | | | 12:55 | In the old apartheid regime, when they called you a very good cop, you’re a cop who takes orders and execute them without asking questions; then you’re a good cop. // You obviously heard of your colleagues at Vlakplaas who were involved in killing people as well. // Yes, that came to my attention also. // How did that advance the cause? // I don’t think it advanced any certain cause because all they did … they even killed their own people who challenged them. So, I don’t think they advanced anything. I was not scared that I was becoming a bad cop. I was only scared that if I don’t do it, because there was too much shooting, I could have got shot myself. Also then they could have said I was shot by one of the guerrillas on the scene. | Full Transcript | | 13:46 | But the worst emotional turmoil was felt by the families of the seven Gugulethu victims. This was their third date with the truth, a real raw confrontation between Thapelo Mbelo and those who had lost loved ones did take place, but in a deserted hearing hall after the hearing was over. | Full Transcript | | 14:07 | As I am asking for forgiveness some will forgive me, others will not. I know that I will die with a guilty conscience for I have done a terrible thing. I am asking for the parents of those sons, who were there on that day, I ask them for forgiveness from the bottom of my heart. // I am the mother of Christopher. He was the bread winner at home. Inside of you, you knew that you were going to kill your own brothers. How did you feel about that? // Mama I am still feeling guilty. // He says he was forced to do what he did and that he didn’t want to do it. But he was working for the system. He did it to his own brother like Cane did it to Abel. // We feel sorry for you. You said you were used by the system. And you were saving your own life. We can’t forgive you. This was my only brother whom you sold out. We can’t forgive you, you say this and you say that, you have more than one story. // I understand that Thapelo means ‘prayer.’ I hope you live up to your name. I understand ...more | Full Transcript | | 17:20 | This amnesty hearing will continue at a later date when the askari who infiltrated the Gugulethu Seven cell, Jimmy Mbane, will testify. But it is interesting to note that the Cape security policemen like Dolf Odendaal and William Liebenberg have not applied for amnesty. One wonders if they will be prosecuted for their role in the killings. That decision would be up to the Attorney-General. | Full Transcript |
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