Special Report Transcript Episode 76, Section 2, Time 40:25

When I first got involved it was to say to Mrs. Mandela there have been these stories about abuse, sodomising of the children; please let’s stop talk about that. The next time was to say to Mrs. Mandela there are children about whom there are stories that they are being held against their will. Shall we have them released? And I thought, if I may say so, I’d been successful in having them released into the custody of the church. // Dr Motlana, with the greatest of respect to you, the release that you’re talking about takes place almost ten days after your first meeting. // I admit there was a time delay of ten days. Is it that important? // Was it your impression when you went there that amongst other minors, children, young people, Stompie was one of those whose release ought to have been secured? // Chairman it must have been, but only three as I said were released to me. // And did you become aware when you personally drove them to the office of Mr. Naidoo that Stompie was not amongst those? // I was aware Mr. Chairman that Stompie was not among them. // And can you tell us how you felt, if you felt anything, knowing that one of the persons whose release you had to secure was Stompie and now you were going away from that house without him. // When I got the three, as I’ve indicated, I thought it was partial victory. I didn’t ask about Stompie, I wasn’t sure what had happened to Stompie.

Notes: TRC testimony: Dr Nthato Motlana (Soweto Community leader); Fazel Randera (Commissioner); Dr Motlana; Dumisa Ntsebeza (Head: TRC Investigative Unit); Dr Motlana; Ntsebeza; Dr Motlana; Ntsebeza; Dr Motlana