Special Report Transcript Episode 77, Section 3, Time 44:08

One was of course aware of certain steps that were being taken, people who were being murdered. We did know about it, and we were very upset and worried about that, because we didn’t think that that was the way to go about. // Did you at any stage give this information directly to Mr. Botha? // In that climate at the end of the eighties when this conflict was going on, at various stages I voiced the same sentiments towards Mr. Botha. If you can just give me a chance. I told him so, it seems as if there are problems regarding the communication, I said that there must be some misunderstanding somewhere. I do not have facts to verify this but it seems to me as if members of the security branches could possibly be involved in some of these things which are illegal and that we cannot be involved in illegal actions. // What was his reaction? // He said that he was also very worried about it and that he would deal with this at a political level.

Notes: Niel Barnard (Former Head: NIS)