Special Report Transcript Episode 86, Section 4, Time 39:35

I was actually leaving for Germany on the day when the Commissioners were announced and Sheena Duncan actually phoned me to tell me and shoe! It was incredibly exciting because for me I think that you have law, you have the whole question of jurisprudence, but law doesn’t often bring justice and I think that what the Commission represented for me was the chance to bring morality and law together to achieve justice. And for me it was the most exciting time of my life really. // When people look at the work of the Commission they should remember that within a two year period we’ve changed the discourse forever about human rights violations and nobody will deny that they took place. Initially when victims told their stories people were disbelieving. Now that we hear the perpetrators it’s actually worse than people really thought. And I think that if the Commission has achieved anything it has been that acknowledgement of victims and the fact that nobody can deny in South Africa that these kinds of things happened and that’s a very important thing.

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