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DU PLESSIS, PCAge Description When you reported that death to Mr. Snyman you were speaking about something you do not have factual knowledge of, because you did not witness it - the death. // That’s correct. // I put it to you that the applicants accepted Mr. Koole and Mr. Mogoai and to a lesser extend Mr. Beeslaar did ... It sounds to me like a totally different incident Mr. Chairman. Mr. Mamasela was not there. // Was he one of the askaris? // I believe so, I am not a 100 percent sure, but I believe he was present. // I had no knowledge or information in that regard. Port Elizabeth was ungovernable. And I want to go even further and say that Pebco was in control here. // The activists were winning the war, or had already done so. There was feedback from the secretariat, the Security Council, which was received by the JMC to the effect that the government was ... As far as I can remember Sgt Roy Otto took out his firearm, and I think it was his service pistol, and shot Kondile. Afterwards he was put on some wood which was already there and we also gathered some more wood and he was burnt to death. Twelve years, Mr. Mamasela you were part of the security police in South Africa. Is that right? // I was made part of I was not part of, I was made part of against my will, against my political conviction. // Yes, we’ll get to that … against you political conviction. // Yes. So what was your ... Col Snyman did not give a direct instruction but he did say that he realized that there were no other options, that nothing else did work and that I had to proceed and do the best I could in the interest of the country. // And you interpreted that as instruction to go ahead and eliminate. Is that ... I’m putting it to you. You were never part of the security branch. You were never stationed at Mamelodi. There was never a substation of the security branch in Mamelodi, ever. I’m putting it to you that you are lying through your teeth, that’s what I’m putting to you. // The person whose ... ... apartheid, combating the communist onslaught and fighting terrorism. They say the 1981 murder of Sizwe Kondile was executed as part of their duties as security policemen. One of them admitted that Kondile would have been killed even if he had begged for his ... What was the content of this note? // It was to inform the ANC, it was directed to a person to inform the ANC that firstly he had been arrested and secondly that he pretended to be an informer, that at this stage he had provided no information which would harm any ANC member. ... Louis Trichardt we decided that we were past the point of return. People had died. The police could be looking for us. We could not turn back. // During operations the next few days NSP members obtained weapons and ammunition. Jurgen Grobbelaar’s parents became worried when he didn’t ... Mining was South Africa’s first modern industry and was crucially shaped by the colonial and the racial hierarchy of the day. Migrant labour, job reservation, wage distribution, housing, health care and other conditions of service were racially described. The racial organisation of work was ... Two men dominated this week’s amnesty hearing into the 1985 murders of the Port Elizabeth leaders known as the Pebco Three. The Centenary Hall in New Brighton was cramped daily by residents and activists who came to hear security policemen Gideon Niewoudt and Vlakplaas askari Joe Mamasela speak ... What I’m saying is that we didn’t kidnap them to interrogate them. We kidnapped them to kill them. ... it that copies will be made for the Committee, but may I read out the relevant passage? Listen carefully Mr. Derby-Lewis what your colleague Mr. DP du Plessis said. Who is mister DP du Plessis? // He was the member of Parliament for Wonderboom. // It’s Wednesday the 21st of October 1992 at page ... ‘I call the applicant Mr Hermanus Barend du Plessis as the first witness in these proceedings.’ // Captain Hermanus du Plessis, Gen Nic van Rensburg, Gen Gerrit Erasmus and Sgt Johannes Raath, who have all since retried are seeking amnesty for their part in Sizwe Kondile’s death. Former ... Snyman interpreted his conversation with Minister Le Grange as sanction to eliminate activists. Colonel Hermanus du Plessis came to him and said they’d run out of legal options to contain militants in the Port Elizabeth area. Du Plessis suggested that the only option was elimination. Snyman did ... ... be permanently removed from society as a matter of urgency. Three weeks later the Cradock Four were dead. The signal was sent by Colonel Lourens du Plessis on the orders of General Joffel van der Westhuizen to Major General Johannes van Rensburg. General Van der Westhuizen said he could not ... ... // Your application indicates that you committed these crimes as a result of being ordered to do so by Col Snyman, Lt-Col Van Rensburg and Col Du Plessis. // That’s correct. // Is that the truth? // That is the truth Mr Chairman. // You were at liberty to refuse to do so, isn’t it? // ... ... questions has been does racism constitute a political motive? Last year the Committee made a number of benchmark decisions in this regard. Jean du Plessis and Cornelius van Wyk belonged to a fanatic right wing organisation called ‘Die Nasionaal Sosialistiese Partisane.’ They killed three ... ... former or current members of the South African Congress of Students of which Siphiwo was the leader. Many of them were also detained and tortured during the eighties. // How do I feel against the people who tortured me? I think … I can always forgive them. // Do you want to take revenge? // ... |
