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JOHANNES, BenAge 33 Description ‘Post Chalmers Morning of 9 May 1985’ // And the next morning? What happened then? // The interrogation started. We first went to Mr. Hashe. He was released from the shackles and was brought outside with help so that he will be able to walk. He was put on the stoep, then the interrogation ... ... continued in Port Elizabeth this week (3 to 13 November). Convicted killer Gideon Niewoudt and Vlakplaas askaris Joe Mamasela, Kimpani Mogoai and Johannes Koole gave conflicting accounts of the events that lead to the deaths of the three activists. The second segment focuses on the special ... ... cases of former activists across the political spectrum. One of the men who pleaded for amnesty this week was convicted right wing murderer Hendrik Johannes Slippers. Slippers and a group of fellow AWB members fatally assaulted a black man because he dared to walk in a white suburb after ... The assaulters were pleased with this confession. Hashe, still in leg irons and handcuffed was left alone. After a while he spoke to Johannes Koole. // He said in the previous interrogation he lied that he had a gun to his sister’s place. He’s afraid that if the investigators would go there and ... The Committee has also refused amnesty to right winger Johannes Slippers. Slippers killed a black man during a white by night campaign in Belfast in 1990. He is serving a ten year prison sentence for this murder. Johannes Beneke was not part of the interrogation team. He claimed that he intervened only when he heard shouts from the next room. // I heard loud talking in this back office and I went closer and in the door, which gave access to this office – while I stood there, I stopped there – I noticed ... ... and Gerhardus Lotz are asking for amnesty for the murder of the Pebco Three. Vlakplaas operatives Roelf Venter, Gert Beeslaar, Kimpani Mogoai and Johannes Koole are applying for their ... This April Charity Kondile told the Truth Commission about the disappearance of her son, Sizwe in 1981. The first time Dirk Coetzee heard the name Sizwe Kondile was in London in 1989. During lengthy debriefing by the ANC it became clear that Kondile had been one of Coetzee’s nameless victims. ... I identified myself with the objectives of the AWB and believed that they could bring about the necessary political challenges. That is when some of the hostel dwellers gathered themselves and went out but they were killed in a taxi. About 15 of them were killed at a certain open ground in Palm Ridge. They were taken out of the taxi and they were killed. // There was a cousin who lived with us by the name of Mosanduli. ... Two men dominated this week’s amnesty hearing into the 1985 murders of the Port Elizabeth leaders known as the Pebco Three. The Centenary Hall in New Brighton was cramped daily by residents and activists who came to hear security policemen Gideon Niewoudt and Vlakplaas askari Joe Mamasela speak ... Back to the amnesty process now. Four Eastern Cape Security Policemen this week told the amnesty committee that Port Elizabeth activist Sizwe Kondile had to be eliminated because he was a trained ANC terrorist who knew too much about their intelligence network. The men all claim that they were ... They were driving hippo’s when they came into the township. Even when they went back, they were driving in hippo’s. Because when we went to Sebokeng hospital the hippo’s were driving them into Kwamadala Hostel. I realize that police were there but I felt as if I was dreaming because I didn’t believe that police could be there. And in the morning the very same people came in the very same uniform. They were still like the previous day. They took my name. They said they needed some statements as to who had injured the people. I was quite scared to tell them that you are the ones that were here yesterday. Then I could say that it was not just a conflict, it was a war situation and it was quite a big war I could say. General JJ Viktor is a much decorated South African policeman with 45 years of service behind him. Amongst other achievements he founded the base at Vlakplaas in 1979. In September 1992 he was head of the Ciskei Police Force. // My men and I don’t reflect on the CDF. I was not their commander. My ... I realize that police were there but I felt as if I was dreaming because I didn’t believe that police could be there. After he regained consciousness he was taken back to the room where he was tied. // Did you see that with your own eyes? // Yes, that’s correct. For years the people of Maokeng, the township outside Kroonstad in the Free State were terrorised by a brutal gang, called the Three Million Gang. The authorities, for their own reasons, turned a blind eye. And then the community dealt with it in their own brutal way. |
