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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation MR VAN VUUREN: My direct Commander was Lieut Hechter and he and I and Mr Mamasela worked as a team together, and we received our instructions directly from Brig Cronje, who at that stage was the Divisional Commander of Security Branch Northern Transvaal. GEN JOUBERT: After we had identified the three flash point commands, we divided two teams. The one team we sent to the Northern Transvaal under the command of Brigadier Cronje and the other team under the command of Naude. back-up team, Andre Andronowitz and myself. We walked right Mapipa joined later, in 1986 when a special investigation team If I may turn finally to the transformation of the bank. The water shed event in the history of the DBSA was the announcement in December 1994 by the then deputy Minister of Finance, Alec Irwin, of the formation of a transformation team under the chairmanship of Prof Nkushlu. MR VAN ZYL: Yes, he wanted to continue with this matter. I was not surprised that they could not complete the first incident. If you take the other four members of the team, they have never seen those premises before, it was just a question that he wanted to test me and to establish whether they ... CHAIRPERSON:: When you were doing this were the other members of the investigation team present, some or all of them? Or were you alone, one on one, just you and Mr Posiwa? "PJS and Verryn met with crisis team again at 3 p.m." MR TAYLOR: No, Mr Chairperson, this did not happen. I just have to think, they only time that I was approached with regard to this matter was just after - in the beginning of 1986 I was approached by a Colonel Jonker for the Special Investigation Team and there was another person, I don’t know ... They then started asking us questions as to what was happening at Chesterville and what problems we had. We then explained to them what problems that we had. Our major problem was the police, we explained and the vigilante group, the group that was called A Team, which group was assisted quite a ... MR DE KOCK: No, not directly but by means of the legal team it has emerged that he did disappear with a firearm. And then in 21 I ask for approval in principle for action 1 or then alternatively for courses 2 and 3. And then I also ask if such approval is granted, that it is suggested that a team be assembled to give details to this plan, because this plan wasn't written for execution but it was written ... This is a crucial document, this document it is then said was taken to the police. On arrival with - and that is what I’m trying to discover, without apparently any other communication the team was simply chased away with the police referring to the affidavit that this team has now come to hand ... You submitted the application punctually and you gave your support to the Investigative team of the TRC, is that correct? MR MOOSA: So how do you explain this which you have incorporated as part of your statement, what other members of Mr du Plessis' team are being here referred to? MR WILLEMSE: The question is that I should briefly explain what my career was with SAA. I was asked to transfer to SAA during 1979. At that stage I was a member of the legal advisors team and was known then as the South African Railways and Harbours and I fulfilled a very specific role there. I ... MR BARNARD: Mr Chairperson, during my detention under Section 29, they appointed a legal team, I had no control over this. After my release from the Section 29 detention and the Harms Commission that followed on that, the situation continued, people were appointed to me. It was not Mr du Plessis ... MR P DU PLESSIS: You were represented by Adv Flip Hattingh as leader of the legal team. MR MADONSELA: We decided to kill him because he was part of the soccer team and that he was one of the people who attacked our brothers, including myself. CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) this matter now. At a convenient time would you make whatever documents you may have to Mr Hugo and see whether you can collate those documents and see whether they tie up with the sequential numbering of the documents that were supposed to have been in the docket. And ... |
