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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation Showing 761 to 780 of 843 First Page•Previous Page 35 •36 •37 •38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 Next Page•Last Page We then left that house because we were aware that he knew about it. From that day we learnt that other comrades such as Aron Matse, Team(?) and Desmond had been arrested and other comrades whose name I cannot recall now, but it was mostly the leadership of CYL who had been arrested. MR BELLINGAN: Mr Chairman, very likely this was would have been part of a cover story which I would have discussed in confidence with my legal team at the time. So aside from the fact that there's the item of privilege, it comes from my files. Now surely it can't be in the interest of justice for ... MR WILLEMSE: Chairperson, when I made this statement it was in front of the Investigating Team and there were so many parties on the farm that I can't really place this, why I specifically mentioned it. There was an incident one afternoon where I carried gravel to Vlakplaas and after which Colonel ... Mr Bester, when you say that Mr More was a member of the interrogation team and participated in the interrogation of Mr Lubane, are you saying that he would be present during the interrogation conducted by Capt Prinsloo, but wouldn't do anything, wouldn't put questions to Mr Lubane? MR LEOPENG: Maybe with the leave of the Panel, can I ask you was Mr Fourie also part of your team who abducted - who spoke to Mr Sedibe at Piet Retief? MR VAN ECK: Mr Chairperson, I was the Chairperson of the Primary School Management team. Mr de Nysschen was the Vice Chairperson, our children went to school together and we became friends. It was in a school context. MR KAHANOVITZ: Yes, although I would assume on my learned friend's argument, once again, even with an attempt, they would suggest that the Committee disregard proportionality because the attempt never succeeded. So - and one can also think of a different scenario where I planned to blow the ... Our investigating team have been following up and getting the evidence that we need in order that we be able to make a finding and they have taken a statement from an eye witness in this incident. He is a person who is presently in prison, but the prison authorities have given permission for him ... We will come back to you and to the guy you have mentioned, Monde, who was present when these things happened. Our investigating team will come back to you to get those details so that we can have some more information from you and from Monde. Thank you. You - you began to tell us a little bit about the fact this incident created quite a [indistinct] there in the press circles and so on. Why do you think that you were banned from coming to the press conferences, the court team - what happened? Firstly, I was a soccer player before I got this accident - I was very much involved in the soccer. I can no longer play soccer again because I have got an artificial leg. That’s one of the situations when I am seeing my team mates or colleagues or youngsters playing soccer, the pain is being ... The application was fairly extensive and was strenuously opposed, thus compelling the Committee to hold more than one session to dispose of the matter. A number of witnesses were called to testify and a large volume of documentation was placed before us. The matter also had its fair share of ... And after there was a discussion, inmates agreed that okay, they will release the hostages and I proposed to the two leaders that we have to go back to the administrative block, brief the management about the grievances of inmates and hear what they are going to do to try and let us come nearer ... MR SIBANYONI: Were there any members, black members of the Vlakplaas team and/or askaris? Mr Berger, I understand that the team is expanding. Would you for the record just place Mr Malindi on record? And having regard to the fact that I was in a prison cell and completely in the dark as to what was going on, the fact that I needed to get information, the fact that I needed to give information in order to keep my credibility as it were, with the TRC Investigating Team at the time. I mean I ... MR JANSEN: And some of the other applicants allege that you compiled this operational team or selected this operational team, can you please tell the Committee who exactly decided upon who the members of this particular operational team would be. MR BERGER: Thank you Chairperson. If I could just place on record that the documents which we received and which we made the Committee - no, no, I just wanted to say this, we don't have the full application for amnesty. It might well be, and for that we would rely on Mr Prior and his team, it ... MR VLOK: Mr Chairperson, may I just explain once again. There were often congratulations given to people, because we were a team fighting a common enemy. MR VAN DER BERG: Because, you see, if the AWB came to Bophuthatswana on the invitation of the government, surely they would have formed part of the same team. In other words the AWB comes there on invitation of the government and of course they all form part of the same team, they’ll strive for ... |
