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PEBCO ThreeExplanation The Committee dealt with the incident known as the PEBCO 3 under Schedule 8 of that decision and stated: PORT ELIZABETH
PEBCO 3 - ARGUMENT
PORT ELIZABETH
G LOTZ, H SNYMAN, K P MOGOAI, J M VAN ZYL, G BEESLAAR, H DU PLESSIS, G NIEWOUDT, J KOOLE
3921/96; 3918/96; 3749/96; 5637/96; 5640/97;
PEBCO 3
MR DANE: We have also heard for example of the Pebco 4 who were killed down in the Eastern Cape, Pebco 3, I beg your pardon, I stand corrected, the Pebco 3 who were killed down in the Eastern Cape, is that correct? "Amnesty applications on behalf of R Venter as well as Dirk Coetzee have been heard in respect of the Pebco 3 as well as in the matter of the late Mr Kondile. It would be greatly appreciated if we could be furnished, as a matter of urgency, with the statements and transcript of proceedings in the ... ... of violent clashes between supporters of the UDF and AZAPO in the area. These occurred at the time, you must remember, the murders of the PEBCO 3 and the CRADOCK 4 had occurred. It was widely believed at the time that they had been murdered by the State, a belief that was to be proved ... ... Management Committee, would meet and they would discuss all the issues as far as the activities of the so-called Cradock 6, or Cradock 5 or the Pebco 4, sorry, it is a long time ... In the late 1970s he joined the then Port Elizabeth Black People's Congress ("PEBCO"); the Congress of South African Students ("COSAS") and other anti-apartheid organisations which operated in the area. He was very much involved in their activities and campaigns which entailed inter alia ... van Zyl of Koevoet who came to Port Elizabeth in '84, late '84 or in '84 and left at the end '85/'86 from Koevoet, was here really to get rid of the PEBCO 3 and Goniwe and that he initiated the plan and came to you with du Plessis and you merely rubber-stamped it in a way with Snyman. What do you ... ... And there are a number of instances which are fairly well known, the killings of the Cradock Four in the Eastern Cape, the disappearance of the Pebco Three, the killings of the Ribeiro's and so on and so forth, the assassination on Piet Ntuli and many others. When it appeared to you that ... ... TRC hearing in the Eastern Cape that I had sent him down I think to do a recce or to give advice on the killing of I believe it was Goniwe or the Pebco 3 or some of those people Mr Chairman - I have absolutely no idea what he is talking about Mr ... MR NYOKA: Finally, you said that this farm was about 25 kilometres from Cradock, what I want to know out of interest, if I can be allowed to ask that question, was this farm next to the Post Chalmers Police Station which was a place used in the killing of the PEBCO 3, do you know? Like these statements that have been made on TV by Mr Mamasela who - who has been part of the Vlakplaas security network. I was watching him on TV when he confessed that Niewoudt was beating- in fact was responsible for the beating of the PEBCO 3 who disappeared in the ‘80’s MR DU PLESSIS: Yes Mr Chairman, he has also given extensive evidence in the PEBCO 3 Matter for instance. Just look at what has in fact been uncovered through the TRC; all about Steve Biko, the Cradock 4, the Pebco 3, Siphiwe Mthimkulu, the Ribeiros, truth that had remained concealed despite all the elaborate trials and inquests that had been held. ... likely to find ever as far as this Security Branch is concerned, is the evidence, first of all the affidavit of Mr Snyman and his evidence in the Pebco 3 application, where he gave evidence under oath, when his state of health was still such that he could do it, about the discussion that he had ... In the late 1970s he joined the then Port Elizabeth Black People's Congress ("PEBCO"); the Congress of South African Students ("COSAS") and other anti-Apartheid organisations which operated in the area. He was very much involved in their activities and campaigns which entailed inter alia bus ... ... Harold Snyman, Herman du Plessis were present there and as a result of the discussion that took place there, they took action which resulted in the PEBCO incident and the Goniwe incident. In that incident people between the Minister, such as the Head of the Security Police and the Commissioner ... before you, but I cannot recall that I have argued this before the other two members and made this specific point. It may be that I did that in the Pebco matter before Mr Sandi, but I cannot ... Other 1985 events are the PEBCO 3 and the CRADOCK 4 abductions and murders, the two excruciating states of emergencies and the last of which lasted until the dawn of the new democratic era in 1989. Even the white business community inside South Africa secretly defied the apartheid bulldog regime ... |
