| Time | Summary | |
| 36:05 | Joining the football club was no guarantee of safety. Lolo Sono, the only son of this Sowetan family was keen to be a club member. Lolo got on the wrong side of Winnie. He disappeared nine years ago. Katiza has never heard the Sono family’s version of the story. He reveals his for the first time. | Full Transcript and References |
| 36:29 | They accused Lolo Sono of being a police spy. They brought him in the house and he said he was not a police spy. But they said he worked with the police. | Full Transcript |
| 36:37 | Lolo Sono was taken to Winnie Mandela’s house. Behind these garage doors she passed judgement. | Full Transcript |
| 36:46 | When I came into the garage, they were beating Lolo Sono. Mrs Mandela, Jerry Richardson and others. They were whipping Sono. After they beat Sono he was wounded. Then they put him in a car and drove to his house in Meadowlands. | Full Transcript |
| 37:01 | Mrs Mandela and football club members took Lolo to his home, searched for documents Winnie believed would prove the boy’s guilt. No such documents existed. | Full Transcript |
| 37:16 | Inside the kombi there was my boy Lolo. He’s being held by two boys. He was badly beaten; his face was bruised up and I spoke to Winnie concerning what happened. She told me Lolo was a spy. | Full Transcript |
| 37:33 | Lolo Sono’s father talked to Mrs Mandela and said: Please leave my son with me. Those are the only words I remember. Mrs. Mandela said. No, I’m taking him away with me; the movement will see what to do with him. | Full Transcript |
| 37:44 | I was pleading with Winnie. Please give my son back to me, because if you accuse him of being a police spy I don’t believe, it’s incorrect. She said to me I’m taking the dog away, the movement will see what to do with him. // The last time I saw Lolo he was in the presence of Mrs Mandela, not in the presence of a man that I didn’t know. But in the presence of the woman that I for one, and many of us, called a mother of the nation. A woman who used to come and sit in my bedroom, talk to my husband, in this very bedroom behind my back. Now I can say Mrs Mandela is a murderer and a killer of the nation. | Full Transcript |
| 38:36 | When Mrs Mandela says take him away. That is the end. When they say take him away. That is to kill. | Full Transcript |
| 38:47 | I want them to give me my ‘dog’ back, as she called Lolo. To me he’s not a dog; to her he’s a dog. Now my reply to her is I want that dog that you took away. I want it back. The dog is mine. As she called Lolo a dog. I want the dog back. I want to bury it. | Full Transcript |
| 39:08 | I think he’s dead….Mrs. Mandela. | Full Transcript |
| 39:20 | The Sono family wants Winnie Mandela brought to account. As yet no charges have been laid against anyone in connection with the disappearance of Lolo Sono. | Full Transcript |
| 39:34 | Events linked with all these deaths and disappearances were witnessed by Katiza. He was stuck in a morass of violence, lies and betrayals. And then one day, while snooping around Winnie’s house, Katiza made a startling discovery in one of the bedrooms. | Full Transcript |
| 40:17 | When I opened the drawer I got a shock. I didn’t believe what I saw. I saw a lot of pictures. When I looked at the pictures they were of Mrs Mandela with Dali Mpofu. | Full Transcript |
| 40:30 | Dali Mpofu was a young lawyer who became Winnie’s lover while Nelson Mandela was in prison. Mpofu later plays a critical role in this story. Who shot the pictures Katiza found remains a mystery. | Full Transcript |
| 40:48 | Dali wore nothing. You can see Mrs Mandela. You can see the man lying on top of the woman. You can see the face of the woman, but you cannot see the man’s. There were a lot of pictures of Mrs Mandela naked. I took one of the pictures. When I took the picture, I didn’t know what to do with it so I hid the picture. | Full Transcript |
| 41:15 | Unwisely, Katiza confided his discovery to another club member. The photo of Winnie and Dali naked together in bed would put his life in danger. // In February 1990 Nelson Mandela was released from his long imprisonment. But Winnie’s troubles were growing and seven months later she was formally charged with assaulting Stompie Moketsi. Among those charged with her was Katiza. He let it be known he would tell the truth at Winnie’s trial and blow apart her defence. Soon after, Katiza was tipped off that Winnie had given the order to kill him. Katiza jumped bail and went on the run. Arrested later he expected to be jailed. Incredibly, the police instead delivered him to Winnie Mandela. | Full Transcript |
| 42:14 | They put me in the back room where they put Stompie. So they tied my hands, they tied my feet. Mrs Mandela came. She asked me. Where is the picture? I said I have destroyed it. So they beat me. Mrs Mandela said boil hot water. All over the face and head. Boiling water all over the head, the parts here and all down the leg. And the teeth were broken because of the way they knuckled me they hit me here. Mrs Mandela and the bodyguards hit the teeth like this see. // Is this the teeth at the back? // Mrs Mandela beat me but I didn’t even feel the pain. I cried until I didn’t feel the pain. The way they beat me like Stompie I started to have that memory. They grabbed me and put me in the boot of the car. | Full Transcript and References |
| 43:20 | Although badly beaten Katiza regained consciousness and somehow managed to kick open the boot and escape. After hospital treatment he took refuge with Winnie’s driver, John Morgan, a co accused in the trial who he thought he could trust. | Full Transcript |
| 43:47 | In a blaze of publicity Winnie Mandela’s trial began at the Supreme Court in Johannesburg. Katiza, one of the co accused was absent from the dock, in hiding. There was an instant adjournment to give Winnie more time to prepare her defence. During this break Morgan took Katiza into central Johannesburg to a place he had never been before, Shell House, the national headquarters of the newly legalized ANC. Caught in a trap Katiza was ushered into a room. | Full Transcript |
