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Special Report
Transcripts for Section 1 of Episode 99

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27:48Stompie and the others were never taken to hospital. Later that night, the 31st of December, Katiza saw the brutal stabbing of Stompie Moketsi.Full Transcript
28:01In Mrs Mandela’s house, the back room has a sliding door. In the middle is the Jacuzzi, and this side is another room with the toilet outside. So when I finished pissing, I heard a noise, like somebody crying. When I saw Mrs Mandela, I was hidden by small trees and flowers by the Jacuzzi. I saw Mrs Mandela wearing long clothes. I knew it was Mrs Mandela because there was a moon, and you could see this was a woman, this was a man, and a boy. She was holding something shiny, like a knife. She and Richardson were coming with other people. They were near to the Jacuzzi. I saw Mrs Mandela holding something shiny. She used her hands twice. As soon as I saw that, I became scared.Full Transcript
29:00Witness to the stabbing next to this Jacuzzi Katiza crept back to his bed.Full Transcript
29:09After about ten minutes, I heard a car going out. In about one hour, the car came back.Full Transcript
29:20The football club’s driver, John Morgan was given an order by Winnie. // She said look you better drive that red Toyota car out. Then I asked her, to do what with it. She said to take that body of that dog, go and dump it away. I said I’m not going to do that.Full Transcript
29:42However the body was removed and dumped on waste ground; it is not known by whom. Police found the rotting corpse, later identified as Stompie’s. The autopsy found two deep stab wounds to the right side of the neck and another at the base. The security police hounded Dr Asvat to reveal what he knew about the youth’s injuries. He stayed silent. Tell anything to the security police, and he would be branded an informer. Full Transcript
30:53So there was continuous pressure put onto Hurley by Winnie Mandela to say look you’re not making any statement of any nature. So Hurley was being pestered by Winnie Mandela, by the security police and he just didn’t know which side to turn. He says, this f**n bitch is giving me grief, causing problems and I fear for my life.Full Transcript
31:24Within days two Zulu youths were brought here, to Winnie Mandela’s house. She asked they be shown the location of Dr Asvat’s surgery. Their guide was Katiza.Full Transcript
31:37Two people came to the house. Mr Mandela told me to show them the house of Dr Asvat. We went to Rockville and I showed them the house.Full Transcript
31:46Soon after two youths entered the surgery and registered as patients. Two shots were fired. Four weeks after examining Stompie in this very same room, Dr Asvat laid dead on the floor. The funeral ceremonies were led by Dr Asvat’s elder brother, Ebrahim. Police swiftly said the motive for the murder was robbery. Ebrahim does not accept this explanation.Full Transcript
32:32As far as we’re concerned robbery was not the motive. We found most of the money still in his consulting rooms.Full Transcript
32:38Two Zulu youths were arrested and sentenced to life imprisonment for the murder.Full Transcript
32:45We were given a statement in court by the then prosecuting attorney. He showed me a document and gave me a photocopy of it which stated that they had been promised R20 000 for the murder of my brother. And the statement said which was never produced in court, that Mrs Mandela had offered this money. It was never used in court. It is an unsigned document.Full Transcript
33:20One of the youths, Nicholas Dlamini has just issued a statement from prison confirming that Katiza Cebekhulu showed him Dr Asvat’s surgery and that Winnie Mandela hired him and an accomplice to assassinate the doctor. Our witnesses, Katiza Cebekhulu and Reggie Jana, say the opposite was true, that in fact he refused to substantiate her allegations.Full Transcript
33:51Winnie and the football club were now under close scrutiny. In mid February 1989 the police raided Winnie’s house and arrested Jerry Richardson, her chief bodyguard, for the murder of Stompie Moketsi. Richardson was tried, found guilty and sentenced to death commuted to life imprisonment.Full Transcript
34:25Winnie’s football club was now falling into disrepute, nevertheless she continued recruiting. When one youth, Sibusiso Chili, refused to join a fight broke out and a football club member Maxwell Modondo was killed. Winnie demanded revenge. Katiza Cebekhulu heard her give the order.Full Transcript and References
34:50Mrs Mandela called a meeting. She said we had to get revenge because they have killed Maxwell Modondo. So we should go and get revenge.Full Transcript
35:00The target was the Chili family. Their house was machine gunned and fire bombed. Dudu Chili’s 13 year old niece, Finkie was shot. Full Transcript and References
35:13I hope before she was burnt she was dead. I hope so, because if she started by burning she’s died a gruesome death. She was too young. She had a bright future.Full Transcript
35:44Sibusiso Chili could not have imagined his refusal to join Mandela United would end in such tragedy. Today he’s too traumatized to talk. // As for the attack on my house, the orders came from Winnie and nothing has ever happened to her.Full Transcript
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